Class A - numbers and costs?

27 Mar 2009 10:17 #1 by sumter
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Can the gurus here tell me just how many Class A airfields were built in the UK during WWII? I can't find a definitive figure anywhere.

And is the (circa) £1 million cost of each one still regarded as about right? I'm trying to get my head round the total cost of the building programme in 1940s money - on the assumption the airfields were built 'at cost price', without any profit element for the contractors.

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sumter

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27 Mar 2009 12:51 #2 by Peter Kirk
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A number would have been upgraded to class A during the war so this might cause a problem with the count. Also didn't class A change a couple of times so ones that were class A might not be class A after the minimum was changed?
It might be easier to find out how many class A airfields there were at a point in time.

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27 Mar 2009 13:10 #3 by sumter
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I suppose what I really want to find out is how many three-runway airfields, like the Class A pattern, were built during the war years - a ball-park figure for the average non-expert Joe to understand.

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28 Mar 2009 14:52 #4 by sumter
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I've just had a look at David J. Smith's book Britain's Military Airfields. Those of you who've read it will know it says the government (specifically, the AMDGW) spent £600 million on airfields (and other related construction) during the war years.

That translates to about £24 billion in today's money - although "what-it's-worth-today" comparisons depend on lots of different criteria, and can be misleading. I suspect the true like-for-like figure for, quote, "the largest construction programme in British history" is considerably higher.

Another way of looking at it might be to ask what the equivalent of a wartime 'Class A' bomber station would cost to build today - relative to other modern public works such a stretch of six-lane motorway, a new school or a hospital. Of course, a profit element would have to be factored in for the airfield - something that was absent from the contractors' invoices in WWII.

I'd still like to find an approximate figure for the number of what I'd call 'proper' airfields built in the war years; i.e., Class A-type, or others, with paved runways. David J. Smith's book details a total requirement of 740 airfields of various sorts for the Allied air campaign. Did they all see the light of day?

I just happen to think "the largest construction programme in British history" should be proclaimed and bolstered with some of the mind-boggling stats about it that remain hidden!

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28 Mar 2009 15:00 #5 by canberra
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Is the definition of a class A airfield one with three runways?? I know Leuchars was only built with two, and both are still in use.

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28 Mar 2009 15:08 #6 by sumter
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Yes, but surely Leuchars - along with most RAF bases active today - is a pre-war airfield with permanent structures - part of the RAF's expansion period of the 1930s (including, Canberra, Marham!).

I'm interested in those built during the war, and referred to by some as 'emergency' airfields.

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28 Mar 2009 15:10 #7 by canberra
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Yes it is of course pre war along with Marham, but as I said what is the definition of a class A airfield?????? Would for instance Lossiemouth with three runways be a class A airfield and if so what defintion would Leuchars have?

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28 Mar 2009 15:24 #8 by sumter
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Simply stated, it was a WWII specification for a temporary airfield comprising three intersecting paved runways and a connected perimeter track, with associated hardstands. The vast majority of disused military airfields in the UK are of this type.

As PNK says above, the specification changed incrementally.

See here . But I imagine the AiX top brass have much better definitions......

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28 Mar 2009 17:04 #9 by mawganmad
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I doubt this helps, but St Mawgan, a large three runway airfield built in 1942-43 cost 2 million pounds, this was the amount charged by the contractor - Costains.
I do not know what was included, such as parts or lighting etc, but would guess it did cover everything as specialist contractors would come under the main contractor and pricing normally.

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28 Mar 2009 18:43 #10 by Peter Kirk
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I don't recall seeing a list of Class A airfields but I suspect one could be drawn up.

If your criteria is wartime built then I assume you would exclude those in existance at the start of the war or under contsruction at that time. This would exclude a number of key airfields that conformed to calss A standards by the close of the war.

It might also exclude Sculthorpe, for example, which although was a class A (I Think) in 1943/4 it was rebuilt as "better" than Class A in late '44 to 1945. [Was VHB a Class?]. I am also intrigued by Leuchars now!

I have a suspicion that St Mawgan, although a wartime build, was not actually classed as a Class A either. [mawganmad - any ideas?]

Not much help sumter but you seemed to have started something here. If nobody has a list of Class A airfields perhaps one could be drawn up? I am a bit rusty on airfield standards but it would be interesting list all airfields at, say, December 1944 and show their respective classes where applicable.

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