Mystery landing procedure

06 Jun 2011 20:05 #1 by Skellyq
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I wonder if anyone can help work out something that I just can't seem to find anything out on. I've been researching an incident whereby a Lancaster collided whilst in the circuit for RAF Skellingthorpe in 1944. I have the accident report and there's an entry from the controller stating...

"Pilot of this aircraft called up on R/T at 0150½ was given "No. 1541", this was acknowledged and no further communication was received. Runway in use was 07, length - 2,000 yds. Sgd: J. P. BLACKMORE, S/Ldr S.F.C.O"

Can anyone shed any light on what "No. 1541" could be referring to?

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06 Jun 2011 21:25 #2 by WJT
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Hi Skellyq - welcome aboard. What do you mean by the word collided - did the Lanc have a mid-air collision with another aircraft or did it just crash into the ground whilst in the circuit? It would be helpful to know the date of the accident, the aircraft serial number and its unit. Also, in the appointment of Sqn Ldr Blackmore, you have typed the letters S F C O with full stops after each letter - is that exactly how they appear on the accident report?

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07 Jun 2011 06:48 #3 by canberra
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And my guess is S.F.C.O stands for Senior Flying Control Ofiicer.

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07 Jun 2011 19:40 #4 by WJT
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Good thinking, Ace.

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08 Jun 2011 20:18 #5 by Skellyq
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Thanks for the welcome!

The quote in my first post was copied letter by letter from the original accident report and the full stops are there in the original.

The aircraft in question was Lancaster I, LM162 of 50 squadron. The pilot (Hickling) reported a collision in the landing circuit at 1,200ft whilst returning from Stuttgart on the 12/13th Sept 1944.

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08 Jun 2011 21:58 #6 by carnaby
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Intriguing! The only '1541' reference I can find is No.1541 Beam Approach Training Unit which was hundreds of miles away at Stracathro.

I note that 'Lancaster, Story of a Famous Bomber' states 'crashed when fin was struck' (253 hours on the clock)

Plan A is always more effective when the problem you are working on understands that Plan B will involve the use of dynamite :twisted:

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09 Jun 2011 21:16 #7 by Skellyq
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The fin damage came from a "glancing blow" that resulted from the collision with the other aircraft. There was a thorough investigation afterwards but the second aircraft was never located.

I guess I'll just have to keep searching. All I can imagine is hidden somewhere in the archives is procedure No.1541 that explains all!

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09 Jun 2011 21:42 #8 by ricasso
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Would it be worth posting the WHOLE accident report? it might be easier for those who know to deduce a better conclusion?

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10 Jun 2011 18:36 #9 by Skellyq
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I've only got a hard copy of it but i'll try and work something out

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10 Jun 2011 19:24 #10 by canberra
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Only thing I can think of is that the 1541 is the next time to do something, Im guessing that its a misprint of something like 0154.

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