Bikini Alert Status

09 Dec 2008 21:04 #1 by Peter Kirk
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Now canberra has mentioned Bikinis. Having seen them at various bases what are the states (colours?) and what do they mean for those on base.
I assume the Bikini reference is to the atoll?
Peter

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09 Dec 2008 21:13 #2 by NJR
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PNK

Apparantly it isn't, always thought it was myself until CDP told me what it was, which I've forgot. Where is he? CHRIS.

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10 Dec 2008 00:34 #3 by CDP
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I was in the pub.............

From my krutty memory, the Bikini State name came into being from an early word-generating computer when trying to find an easily recongnisable and remembered word, easily understood; allegedly it has nothing to do with the Bikini Atoll (al US nuclear testing), as Noel mentioned. It has been used by the MoD since May 1970 to quickly describe states of national security. Whether this is true, or an urban myth, is anyone's (well mine anyway) guess but it seems to perpetuate in many references. If it's wrong, I don't want to carry that myth along, so other theories VERY welcome!

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10 Dec 2008 14:44 #4 by PJH
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On many visits in the past to Llanbedr, I was always struck by the 'Bikini Board' on passing the entrance gate. Normally 'white' or some such. Occasionally (post-9/11) 'Red'. Does anyone know the ful list of security state colours?

Peter

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10 Dec 2008 17:13 #5 by Peter Kirk
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From the New Statesman :

Bikini Red Information has been received about an imminent attack on a specific target.

Bikini Amber Specific information has been received and it is assessed that there is a substantial threat to government targets within a specified period of time.

Bikini Black Special Information has been received and it is assessed that there is an increased likelihood of terrorist activity with no defined target or time of attack.

Bikini Black It is assessed that there is a possibility of terrorist activity with no defined target or time of attack.

Bikini White No information about a specific threat.

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10 Dec 2008 17:27 #6 by Balders
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The colours are right and the ones used for the public are comparable now to the bikini states. I asked many times at the various army barracks i was at(to an 18 year old for some reason bikini was funny) and non one seemed to know.The explanation was 'because it is'.

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10 Dec 2008 18:22 #7 by Paul Francis
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So basically THERE WILL BE AN ATTACK but there is either, no info, target unknown, substantial threats to gov targets or there will be an imminent attack on an actuial target.

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10 Dec 2008 18:41 #8 by canberra
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The bikini system was introduced in Britain( it wasnt used in N Ireland or on overseas bases), yes white was the lowest colour but was never used as the was never a time when there wasnt a terrorist threat. Black special meant that there was a PIRA active service unit in Britain. Both red and amber were only to be brought in to force for a limited time, I think red was meant to be in force for only 24 hours. Basically when red is in force everything stops on a unit. The bikini system actually stopped approx 3 years ago, a new system came in to force with only three states.

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11 Dec 2008 20:39 #9 by Peter Kirk
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I'm pretty sure when I visited Cosford with the family the Bikini state was amber. Would they use this as an exercise as well? I know when my sister was working at Lakenheath for the MOD they had an alert practice and all the USAF personnel donned the gimp suits and carried on typing at computers and doing all the other paperwork with "Mickey Mouse" hands. My sister was still in normal clothes. We assumed civvies were immune to NBC attacks (when did broadcasting companies turn nasty?).

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11 Dec 2008 21:50 #10 by kebecker
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USAFE did have a colour warning system during excercises, from what I remember from my time at Alconbury green was good, red was tin hats, black was tin hats and noddy suits. As PNK says civvies exempt.

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