Big Society and Aerodrome Heritage

16 Feb 2011 08:51 #11 by Paul Francis
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What happens when the money runs out and all the 'charities' collapse one by one? All very well getting rid of EH Dave4OTU but who will look after the nation's heritage?

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16 Feb 2011 09:21 #12 by mawganmad
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Wouldn't this thread be better in the members only General Discussion?

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16 Feb 2011 10:59 #13 by Guest
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16 Feb 2011 11:09 #14 by daveg4otu
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Paul , I did not say whether I thought the "Big Society " would actually work, only that ifit acheived it's stated aims it might actually improve certain aspects of life in the UK.

Charity IMO , should not be subsidised by HMG.

Any charity should really be independent of government funds and thus also independent, as far as possible , of government interference.

I realise that that is not a practical proposition in many cases - but allowing one donor (ie:HMG) to have the ability to hold an axe over their heads is not a very desirable state of affairs.

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16 Feb 2011 11:37 #15 by AiXAdmin
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Charity IMO , should not be subsidised by HMG.


or local government either for that matter... however HMG and local government should ensure an operating environment in which good charities and causes can thrive.

Any charity should really be independent of government funds and thus also independent, as far as possible , of government interference.

quite so... they should be answerable to their stakeholders rather than funding bodies.

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16 Feb 2011 13:02 #16 by Peter Kirk
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DF's Cartoon sums it up :)

Out of interest, any cartoonists amongst us?

No Amount Of Evidence Will Ever Persuade An Idiot (probably not Mark Twain)

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16 Feb 2011 14:07 #17 by AiXAdmin
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DF's Cartoon sums it up


I'm not sure that it does - it simply reflects a popular stance.

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16 Feb 2011 19:15 #18 by Paul Francis
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Like it or not charities as they stand today that deal with people and issues concerning vulnerable folk in society, are funded by local government. The Big Society Utopia is just not going to work in the real world.
The cartoon is not a popular stance, if folk do not understand it, then it has not been explained to the masses. I also think that this thread should be deleted ASAP before it gets out of hand.

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16 Feb 2011 19:53 #19 by AiXAdmin
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I also think that this thread should be deleted ASAP before it gets out of hand.


It's not there yet... although it may be worth repeating the OP's message as it poses a very good relevant question:

Not sure if this has been covered before on AIX, but the government's Big Society is in the news again.Question: can we use the Big Society to help save aerodrome sites and individual buildings? Does anyone know what the Big Society is? If so, please feel free to tell all.

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16 Feb 2011 21:09 #20 by YellowPinkie
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To bring this thread back onto track, I think the Big Society is where we are helped to help ourselves - in short, if we wanted to preserve something - Harrington Thor pads for example (my own pet subject) - we would need to get a band of reliable people together, create a credible plan (almost like a business plan) that would identify what we wanted to achieve, how, and what our revenue streams would be. Then, I understand we could apply for some sort of funding (possibly Heritage Lottery Funding) - funding that would be dependant upon meeting set criteria by given dates.

Not convinced in this instance it would work (private land, low interest outside us nerds, etc). It's a lot of work, and not something you could take on lightly...

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