WWII USAAF Building Numbers?

04 Sep 2013 17:51 #21 by P Bellamy
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Hmmm.

I read 404 over C, in a somewhat stencil style to that previously seen.
Which particular site at KC is this on Mike?

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04 Sep 2013 18:27 #22 by P Bellamy
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Provisional additions to the type designators list:
5-XAircraft Armament Eqpt Store
6Dispersal Hut
6-XDispersal Decontamination Eqpt Store
8Shooting-In Butt
19Parachute Store
19-XDinghy Section
26-XSquadron Armory Block
63Station Headquarters Offices
64 or 94Operations Block
98Post Exchange
100Gymnasium w or w/o Chapel and Squash Court
103Airmen's Latrine 16' x 30' Nissen
104Education Block, 24' x 84' Nissen
131-XHF/DF Hut, Timber
131-XXHF/DF Rest Hut, Timber, 14' x 25'
131-XXXRDF Workshop, Brick
133E/M's Living Quarters Types A and B
134E/M's Living Quarters
143-XE/M's Drying Room, 16' x 42' Nissen
143-XXFuel Compound, 54' x 72' Open Wire Enclosure
160Airmen's Latrine
162-2Boiler House
163-2Fuel Compound

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04 Sep 2013 18:50 #23 by Mike
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Hmmm.

I read 404 over C, in a somewhat stencil style to that previously seen.
Which particular site at KC is this on Mike?


Hi Paul,

It's one of the buildings in what was the Technical Site south of the Motor Pool on the eastern side of the airfield. There were lots of shells of buildings in there a few years ago of which several, if my memory serves me correctly, had markings and stencilling on.

Might be worth a trip back there?

Mike

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05 Sep 2013 11:38 #24 by P Bellamy
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Sounds a good idea to me Mike. :)

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06 Sep 2013 07:21 #25 by Paul Francis
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I think it more like to be an AM building number, the building appears to be a latrine block and the C might mean its 1 of 3 with the same number. The RSP will reveal all.

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14 Sep 2013 18:20 #26 by P Bellamy
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There are references to an earlier building numbering system used by the 8AF in late 42/early 43, which had 5" high numbers and corresponded to "the Air Ministry system", without expanding on whatever that was.

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15 Sep 2013 11:45 #27 by P Bellamy
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I've tracked down a copy of 1st Bombardment Division Instruction 135-1 (10th May 1943), which was the original regulations for Station Utilities Officers and had the "Directory of Technical Buildings and Facilities" for the numbering system as an attachment. Unfortunately, when this was archived they didn't actually include the attached list. :|

Never mind thinks I, there is a letter explaining the numbering system that was circulated about a month later, to ensure that all the bases were complying with 135-1, and that states a second copy of the directory is attached, in case they'd lost the first one. Guess what... that copy didn't get archived either. :x

Last chance, check the "Monthly Airdrome Facilities and Status Reports" which were to be compiled with the same numbering system.
Great, loads of those on file, but something's not right... The archived copies stop in February 1943, and use a different numbering ststem completely. Hang on, here's some from the end of 1943/early 1944, surely these will have the right list!
Sadly no, for some reason these ones were compiled with the standard US Army Services of Supply numbering system, which is different once again. :roll:

Primary source material, I just love it...

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10 Feb 2014 22:08 #28 by P Bellamy
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A few more examples, with slight variations when compared to those already seen...

US-48-T
Photo Lab at Grafton Underwood.
The "-1" has been omitted in this instance, although as each station only had one Photo Lab that wouldn't be a problem:

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Closeup showing the number block painted both on the main entrance door and the end of the building nearest the road:

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US-63
US-x4 (64 or possibly 94?)
SHQ and Ops Block at Chelveston, illustrating the dual number block application mentioned earlier in the thread:

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US-63-T
Similar on the SHQ at Grafton Underwood, but only one number block visible:

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Note the SHQ and Ops Block at Chelveston were directly connected by a corridor, whereas at Grafton they were adjacent but physically seperate.
This could possibly explain why only a single number block is visible on Grafton's SHQ entrance porch, with the Ops Block presumably having its own number applied beside its entrance door.

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10 Feb 2014 22:34 #29 by Peter Kirk
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I think I came across mention of the 1942 or 3 numbering in an AFHRA document recently, I suspect it was the same one though but will check.

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10 Feb 2014 22:51 #30 by P Bellamy
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Yup, it's on the same AFHRA reel as the ranges data. :)

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