WW1 Deflection Target Range and aircraft machine gun training ranges

08 Jul 2011 08:48 #1 by Betisdan
Hi all,

I have seen a photo of a deflection target range at Yatesbury see link
cas.awm.gov.au/item/P00826.037

and a VICKERS AND LEWIS GUNS TRAINING RANGE at:
cas.awm.gov.au/item/P00826.049

Does any one have any drawings or photos of other WW1 egs so that I can have a better idea of what they physically looked like - especially the deflection target range - I am trying to identify a possible feature at Yatesbury which may be the target range.

Thanks

Dan

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08 Jul 2011 11:30 #2 by Peter Kirk
Can't help you with that but would be interested to know what you find out.

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08 Jul 2011 11:32 #3 by Chris Lowe
PNK

Surely there isn't range stuff that you don't know about :lol:

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08 Jul 2011 13:50 #4 by Betisdan
Will do

anything i find out Il post back -

cheers

dan

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08 Jul 2011 19:32 #5 by Peter Kirk

PNK

Surely there isn't range stuff that you don't know about :lol:


My start date is, at a stretch, 1925. New information seems to surface on a weekly basis but mainly to do with locations, very little on users and I am leaving WW1 for another day or year :)

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09 Jul 2011 06:53 #6 by PETERTHEEATER
Interesting images but, all I can say is, the second picture shows a tripod mounted Lewis gun on the right and, on the left is a mock-up of an aircraft front fuselage with a Vickers MG mounted. The former (Lewis) was the standard 'free' gun for aircraft and the latter the standard fixed forward firing gun (usually in pairs) fired by the pilot.

If you are interested in the armament (guns) of WW1 aircraft, I recommend:

'Early Aircraft Armament - The Aeroplane and the Gun up to 1918' by Harry Woodman ISBN 0-85368-990-3 - you should be able to order this up through your local library.

There may be some information on Deflection Target Ranges in Air Publication 1242 Armament Training Manual published by the Air Ministry (London April 1927) if you can track down a copy. This site might be able to help (I am not associated!)

www.mlrsbooks.co.uk/

David Westwood is the point of contact.

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09 Jul 2011 08:33 #7 by Paul Francis
Sometimes I wonder why we bother having an archive, when mlrs sell everything on a CD Rom!

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09 Jul 2011 08:44 #8 by PETERTHEEATER
And soon, they aim to make it downloadable which should give a slightly cheaper but much quicker option. Nice to have the printed page but having it in PDF on one's PC is useful provided you have a filing system which works!

'Our' archive will, I'm sure, have items which are unique.

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09 Jul 2011 11:46 #9 by Peter Kirk
Archives hold originals. Copies a great for frequent reference. The price seems steep, even the CD versions but when you build in travel costs and the inevitable printing of all or part of anything you copy yourself it isn't that bad. I have bookmarked a few for Xmas presents.
Could the archive not do the same? As PTE says our archive will hold items not held elsewhere.

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