British nukes were protected by bike locks - a Newsnight story

01 Jan 2013 07:28 #11 by corij
british bike locks always work. theres a bit of play in them so you can jiggle the key to free off a sticking lock so its a good choice. ive seen a few American locks that are finely machined and look great and very secure,but possibly would not open instantly in an emergency if they got so much as a fly stuck inside them

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01 Jan 2013 16:44 #12 by mbriscoe
Wasn't it learnt that for many years the code to arm or launch some US nuclear weapons was "0000"?

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01 Jan 2013 18:35 #13 by Alex Brown

british bike locks always work. theres a bit of play in them so you can jiggle the key to free off a sticking lock so its a good choice. ive seen a few American locks that are finely machined and look great and very secure,but possibly would not open instantly in an emergency if they got so much as a fly stuck inside them


I have also seen a lot of US locks that you could park an SUV in... In fact picks sold for European locks are known as "slimline" to distinguish them from their chunkier American versions.

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04 Jan 2013 10:54 #14 by superplum

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/7097101.stm

Comments anyone?

There is a video but I could not get that to work

kevin


Note that the "article" is some 5 yrs old and is typically based on scant knowledge of procedures; it focuses on one small tooth in the overall cog of events. It is completely misleading and does not reflect the true sequence of events, or security procedures, that needed to take place before a weapon was finally (if ever) placed in the armed state. It makes no mention of the additional weapon design/safety features that would need to be activated to achieve detonation. When I first became aware of this article, I emailed my comments to the BBC and received the usual response - nothing. Sadly, it is just sensationalist journalism based on ignorance.

Not ranting, really!

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04 Jan 2013 11:27 #15 by netcompsys

Note that the "article" is some 5 yrs old and is typically based on scant knowledge of procedures; it focuses on one small tooth in the overall cog of events. It is completely misleading and does not reflect the true sequence of events, or security procedures, that needed to take place before a weapon was finally (if ever) placed in the armed state. It makes no mention of the additional weapon design/safety features that would need to be activated to achieve detonation. When I first became aware of this article, I emailed my comments to the BBC and received the usual response - nothing. Sadly, it is just sensationalist journalism based on ignorance.

Not ranting, really!


" it is just sensationalist journalism based on ignorance."

Did I mention it was a Newsnight story.......? ;)

kevin

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04 Jan 2013 17:36 #16 by SteveS
It's a good point 'superplum', if the key was hidden in a sock, hidden in a cupboard, with loads of other keys in socks, at the bottom of a pool of piranha fish, then I'd say that's pretty safe.

Steve

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04 Jan 2013 17:47 #17 by mbriscoe

It's a good point 'superplum', if the key was hidden in a sock, hidden in a cupboard, with loads of other keys in socks, at the bottom of a pool of piranha fish, then I'd say that's pretty safe.

Steve


Careful, you might be in breach of the OSA in giving such secret information!

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10 Feb 2018 16:20 #18 by netcompsys
These "Aromic Bomb Keys" were on display at Aerospace Bristol at Filton January 2018



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10 Feb 2018 18:01 #19 by mbriscoe

I have also seen a lot of US locks that you could park an SUV in... In fact picks sold for European locks are known as "slimline" to distinguish them from their chunkier American versions.


Not the same but good 19th Century story of the superiority of British safes over American ones.

The Battle of the Safes, Or, British Invincibles Versus Yankee Ironclads

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10 Feb 2018 18:12 #20 by Peter Kirk
I wonder if anyone tried to get a copy made a Timpsons? :)

No Amount Of Evidence Will Ever Persuade An Idiot (probably not Mark Twain)

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