airfields with bunkers?

27 Jan 2015 15:11 #21 by Harboda77
Replied by Harboda77 on topic airfields with bunkers?
I can't locate the actual values at this moment in time and the following are my failing memory values so any one who has the accurate data is well come to correct update etc.

The retired airman who was my host had completed his tour at Upper Heyford during the transition period from F4's to F1-11's and they were constructing their hardened shelters that are still visible.

The UH HS's were not designed to protect the occupants from a direct over head detonation and there specification had been some thing like 10MT at 5M and 100MT at 20M.

The specification included resistance to NEMP's with a sheltering Aardvark surviving while its human associates would be incapacitated.

Apparently they had traced the term Bunk back to the 1750's relative to sailors ( Peter's Reference ) and then the extensive use of Bunker during 1914/18 & 1939/45 conflicts ( AFM's Reference ).

They showed some images of German hardened facilities that had been undermined by BW's Tallboy bombs and they lead me to believe that future developments in this type of earthquake weapon would render Cheyenne Mountain obsolete by the year 2000.

They predicted that the Mountain would become a future Colorado Springs visitor attraction as have the ICBM Silo's ?

If I've remembered it correctly the Dollis Hill facility had some thing to do with the GPO and Bletchley Park ?

I also remember being corrected on this forum a few years back when I incorrectly referred to the RAF Oakley BHQ as a bunker.

Dave.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

27 Jan 2015 15:14 #22 by Gone
Replied by Gone on topic airfields with bunkers?

3 types.

1. Underground
2. Overground
3. Wombling Free.

Sorry, can't take this seriously now!


Your comment has had me chuckling all day - Nice One!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

27 Jan 2015 15:36 #23 by mbriscoe
Replied by mbriscoe on topic airfields with bunkers?

Winston Churchill had a underground bunker in Dollis hill during WW2.


PADDOCK

I gather it is a surface building with basements. There are regular Open Days there.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

27 Jan 2015 15:39 #24 by mbriscoe
Replied by mbriscoe on topic airfields with bunkers?

Going back through my notes from 1976 during a visit to Colorado they believed a bunker had to survive a direct hit from a nuclear device to be correctly classified.

The definition recorded had been that a bunker was a defensive military fortification designed to protect people or valued materials from falling bombs or any other form of attack.

The example given was that ' Cheyenne Mountain ' was a bunker and that their remote isolated ICBM's were in ' Silo's '

Any structure that could be undermined was a hardened facility.

Dave.


A friend who has been to most of these places with his work, said once that they were designed to protect the equipment inside, the people were easier to replace.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

27 Jan 2015 16:10 #25 by mbriscoe
Replied by mbriscoe on topic airfields with bunkers?
Dollis Hill was the GPO's research establishment.

People from there were heavily involved Colossus and some of the other pieces of equipment at Bletchley Park (despite Turing getting the credit for EVERYTHING in the popular media!)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

27 Jan 2015 20:55 #26 by SimonGee
Replied by SimonGee on topic airfields with bunkers?
Had a good prowl around West Raynham a couple of years ago and don't recall anything that resembled the type of bunker you are looking for.8-)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

30 Jan 2015 00:19 #27 by ArtFaul
Replied by ArtFaul on topic airfields with bunkers?
There is a directory of various underground airfield facilities on: www.subbrit.org.uk/category/nuclear-bunkers and its where I usually check for locations to visit when traveling.

I believe the list of bunkers on RAF bases is long. The first 'possibles' which come to mind are: RAF Wattisham, Watton, Waddington (AWACS), Mildenhall, Machrihanish (black planes flew in at night and got put into closed hangars), Leuchars, Lakenheath, Boscombe Down (ditto black planes at night), Barnham, etc. as any with a 21st century USAF/CIA communications, SR-71, U2, or Predator UAV presence will almost certainly have underground facilities. All one has to do is think of 9/11.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

30 Jan 2015 08:07 #28 by mbriscoe
Replied by mbriscoe on topic airfields with bunkers?

There is a directory of various underground airfield facilities on: www.subbrit.org.uk/category/nuclear-bunkers and its where I usually check for locations to visit when traveling.

I believe the list of bunkers on RAF bases is long. The first 'possibles' which come to mind are: RAF Wattisham, Watton, Waddington (AWACS), Mildenhall, Machrihanish (loud black planes flew in at night and get put into a closed hangar), Leuchars, Lakenheath, Feltwell, Boscombe Down (ditto black planes at night), Barnham, etc. as any with a 21st century USAF/CIA communications, SR-71, U2, or Predator presence will almost certainly have underground facilities. All one has to do is think of 9/11.


There used to be a lot of rubbish talked about Machrihanish none of which was confirmed by people actually working there. I have always suspected that all the 'Aurora' stories came from someone overhearing the crew of one of the maritime reconnaissance aircraft that visited during exercises, I am sure the visiting crews would love a chance to wind up someone. NDBs were stored there and there was protected storage for them.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

30 Jan 2015 22:50 #29 by ArtFaul
Replied by ArtFaul on topic airfields with bunkers?

There used to be a lot of rubbish talked about Machrihanish none of which was confirmed by people actually working there. I have always suspected that all the 'Aurora' stories came from someone overhearing the crew of one of the maritime reconnaissance aircraft that visited during exercises, I am sure the visiting crews would love a chance to wind up someone. NDBs were stored there and there was protected storage for them.


Allegedly Machrihanish was a stopover point for crews flying aircraft from New Mexico to Iraq, as Mildenhall was for the SR-71. The two airports had 10,000+ foot runways, like Boscombe Down. I was on the Machrihanish golf course late one evening and watched what appeared to be a group of F-117's come in. If Aurora exists, it is an unmanned space plane which only lands in California.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

31 Jan 2015 00:11 #30 by netcompsys
Replied by netcompsys on topic airfields with bunkers?
Oh dear, Secret Underground Bunkers on airfields again, we will be discussing mint spifires buried in packing cases next and stashes of unused merlin engines.....

Kevin

kevin

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.046 seconds
Powered by Kunena Forum

We use cookies to improve our website and your experience when using it. Cookies used for the essential operation of this site have already been set. By continuing to use this site you are agreeing to this. To find out more about the cookies we use and how to delete them, see our privacy policy.

  
EU Cookie Directive Module Information