Wasn't there talk of the water tower at Hornchurch on AiX a while back?? If I remember rightly it was being compared to the round water tower at Upper Heyford, something about the number of legs on it?? I may have the wrong place but it does sound familiar....
Paul, no sleight intended re knowledge of Mods here!
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Ref, yes you are right - I think it's on the Hornchurch thread.
Ian, I had a copy of the whole site plan scanned, it's too big to post here (about 4.5MB).
If you email me your details I will put a load of info (drawings, photos etc) on a disk and post it. This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
The interesting thing about the water tower is that it does not appear on the site plan but it is listed on the reference schedule (bldg 38). It is cearly shown on a couple of photos so it should be easy enough to interpolate a location for a simulation. The matter of the legs is a strange one. As Ref commented above Dwg 1178/25 shows 40' legs in a hexagonal arrangement wheras the photos show 4 legs in a square.
No worries Mike. It looks like the water tower is adjacent to the works and bricks office / workshops and is next to the power station and fire pump building.
It always amazed me that the LA acquired this place, quickly sold the technical and part of the domestic site to a developer (I presume), quarried most of the airfield then slaped a Conservation Area over the site of the officers mess, making it the first CA of an airfield (or part of an airfield) in the UK. All this despite its total loss of context and that the LA failed to properly record the historic buildings there. Bizarre to the extreme. Off course I may have this completely wrong.
You can tell a builder from an archaeologist by the size of his trowel. Mine is a small one!
Paul, from what little I know I think you are right in your assessment of the fate of the airfield.
Apart from the Officers Mess there are quite a lot of the accommodation buildings nearby which still exist. I don't know if they have any conservation status, but I doubt it. The existing buildings are all the other side of Southend Road and were outside the Station perimeter (as is the Officers Mess).
The problem is Mike, that the old operations room there underwent many pre-war experiments and modifications to arrive at the 'standard' RAF operations room layout, both in terms of size, height of room and fittings. Its loss has meant that there is a huge gap in our understanding of the development of WWII fighter operations. It is historical facts like this that Local Authorities, MoD and developers should be made accountable for in my opinion.
You can tell a builder from an archaeologist by the size of his trowel. Mine is a small one!
I wasn't aware of that Paul, as you say great shame (verging on criminal neglect) that more wasn't done to preserve or at least record the Technical site before demolition.
Another sad thing is that many people who now live on the former airfield know little or nothing about it.
An ex-girlfriend used to live in West Malling Way and had no idea that it was the former location of the Aircrew Selection Centre, one of the last buildings demolished I believe, still in use well into the 1960s.
It's not at all unusual for people to not care about what they are living on - indeed I'd say it is the norm, people simply aren't interested. They may be interested to know that they live on an ex-airfield, in passing, but my sister lives on the site of an old barracks that was built over in the 1960s. She has no interest in the history of the regiment that were based there or whether it was a training site or not and, to be honest, I wouldn't expect her to. History (particularly military history) has little relevance to most people.
What's more worrying is the attitude of conservation bodies and the like, who really should have an interest. They will also quite happily and very easily write off WW2 as being of no historical value.
An excellent example of this was when my father went on a fishing expedition for me after bits of RAF Atcham, while he was volunteering for the National Trust, doing grounds maintenance for the Attingham estate on which Atcham was/the remains of are located. There's a copy of the aerodrome plan on the grounds maintenance building's wall, but questions of what happened to the structures and surfaces were responded to with "oh, we got rid of those to restore the land or make it better for our tenant farmers."
There was no interest at all in the history of WW2 from the NT (although the grounds staff seemed a lot more interested), it was "look at this pretty house" and "look at the pretty grounds". No thought at all given to more recent history - and that's from a conservation organisation, not a LA whose job it is to make most efficient use of land or a developer whose job it is to provide (much needed, to be fair) housing and to make money. There's a legal obligation on them now to let archaeologists onto the site before development, but they'll be looking for pre-Industrial Revolution archaeology that would "otherwise be lost". WW2 is considered "fully documented and understood" by most people.
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