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04 May 2009 11:40 #1 by Peter Kirk
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I suspect most of you have used the Flight Magazine Archive. If you haven't its here

www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/index.html

There is an awful lot there and much of it very useful but the search has a nasty habit of bring up ads with your keyword in it rather than articles.

Of the stuff I have found this is by far the most intriguing www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1954/1954%20-%202185.html

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05 May 2009 15:06 #2 by mawganmad
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Somebody didn't want us to find out about Ultra Lights or Bristol it seems! Changed their minds though as pages have been rescanned.

This is the best, and most historicaly factual, aviation online resource

James Thomas

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05 May 2009 15:33 #3 by Peter Kirk
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The pre-WW2 ones seem to be the most informative airfields-wise. Once you get to the 70s onwards it appears to be more industry focused. There are some great pics of early Heathrow and Gatwick as well. I wonder where the original photos went?

There was an article about a potential airfield at Sidcup (SE London or Kent for the older ones). Being a commuter area with little open space I wondered where it would go but the I remembered that most of the surrounding housing was built in the 1930s so that probably knocked it on the head.

All we need now is the Aeroplane archive or the old Aviation News whose first airfield history was Cowley! I never knew it was an airfield until then!

Was the "Air Pilot" a monthly magazine? I have seen references to it but the name seems to vary, somtimes "Aero Pilot" or "The Air Pilot" etc.

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05 May 2009 16:59 #4 by mawganmad
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The pre-WW2 ones seem to be the most informative airfields-wise. Once you get to the 70s onwards it appears to be more industry focused. There are some great pics of early Heathrow and Gatwick as well. I wonder where the original photos went?


How do you think the bulk of my Heathrow research is being undertaken?! :)
All the original photos are kept at the 'Flight' archive at Quadrant house, and can be bought - for a biggish fee!
However the photos and reproduction of them is superb.

An 'Aeroplane' archive would be great, but (purely from the mags I have) they didn't seem to cover airfields and equipment anywhere as well as 'Flight'.
'Flight' is also very good for the airfield equipment makers information. Fund a cracking advertisement/article on lighting in the '50s.

James Thomas

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05 May 2009 17:42 #5 by kebecker
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there is a great article about the post war Dorval Airport, I am thinking that these are all copy right so we cannot use them here, correct?

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05 May 2009 17:50 #6 by Peter Kirk
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there is a great article about the post war Dorval Airport, I am thinking that these are all copy right so we cannot use them here, correct?


I suspect that is correct, although I have sneaked a few through. Maybe you could post a link under overseas?

I did think about posting the link to a 1933 issue which listed most of the airfields in the UK and included maps and layouts of a few as well but I will have to find it again!

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05 May 2009 19:29 #7 by hugoj_air
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Here it is Peter.
www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/ ... 01165.html

and ofcourse it was on 7th Dec 1933. A lot of scrollling before I found it. Why
couldn't it be 7th Jan!!!.

Hugo.

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05 May 2009 20:16 #8 by mawganmad
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Links are fine, and I would think quoting text and giving the source is exceptable - especialy as it is 'out there' on the web.
However they are very hot on photos, illustrations and whole article copywrite issues.
As regarding maps (or indeed site record plans) you can always redraw these!

James Thomas

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05 May 2009 21:32 #9 by Peter Kirk
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Thanks Hugo, thats the one. I liked the lists of Towns that expressed an interest. I once spent hours going throught the archive page by page as the search missed quite a lot.

MM, I have often wondered if you copy a map exactly is that allowed or do you have to add your own "style".

Look out for the Helliwells ads from 1939!

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05 May 2009 21:49 #10 by hugoj_air
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Peter, I believe Ordnance Survey sometimes put in minor errors in order to catch out someone making traced or any other type of direct copies of their maps. As far as I know drawing freehand copies, not incorporating every single detail is allowed.

Hugo.

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