Grid references

22 Nov 2012 08:20 #21 by Ossington_2008
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The GRs given for Spalford and Clumber are duff too. (Stapleford nr Nottingham and Stanton by Dale respectively.) I have seen this list before, but have never come across any refs to CW in Clumber Park or US troops working there.

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22 Nov 2012 08:31 #22 by PETERTHEEATER
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Yes, I assumed, initially, that they were NGRs minus the grid square prefix but the few that I tried are well away from sites that are positively located..

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22 Nov 2012 08:46 #23 by mbriscoe
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Some mapping systems are fond of that numeric system of NGRs, always hate it when they do it. If you look at Bowhouse on Canmore it gives the NGR as NGR NS 467 348 but if you go to Canmapping and "hover" over that spot then the NGR is displayed as 246700, 634800.

canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/111621/det...y+munitions+factory/
canmoremapping.rcahms.gov.uk/index.php?a...ced&idnumlink=111621

WoSAS use the same system

www.wosas.net/wosas_site.php?id=21096

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22 Nov 2012 09:51 #24 by Guest
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See our earlier discussion as part of this thread: /community/showthread.php?5997-Grid-References-and-NW-England-Coastal-Sites

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22 Nov 2012 10:37 #25 by OneEighthBit
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Just dropping these in should they prove useful in any way.

gps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/convert.asp
www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/gps/o...nfo/spreadsheet.html

Also this will do the padded 7 digit EN to NGR conversion.

www.nearby.org.uk/coord.cgi#OSGB36%20Grid%20Reference

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22 Nov 2012 11:15 #26 by carnaby
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Just (took me ten minutes !) checked Spalford and Escrick. They work if you drop the leading figures, e.g.

Escrick 467628 442902 = SE 67628 42902

Spalford 483300 368100 = SK 8330 6810

Can't for the life of me see whats wrong with NGR which most people understand and have used for decades. Why be different - licensing perhaps?

Plan A is always more effective when the problem you are working on understands that Plan B will involve the use of dynamite :twisted:

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22 Nov 2012 11:30 #27 by Guest
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Can't for the life of me see whats wrong with NGR which most people understand and have used for decades. Why be different - licensing perhaps?


Nothing to do with licensing....numerical version is far easier to use mathematically and in electronic applications (databases, GIS etc.). A lot of the lists we see now have been extracted from an electronic version.

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22 Nov 2012 11:40 #28 by mbriscoe
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Nothing to do with licensing....numerical version is far easier to use mathematically and in electronic applications (databases, GIS etc.). A lot of the lists we see now have been extracted from an electronic version.


Though it should be a trivial task to get the computer to display both versions to make it easier to poor humans as well as accept input in either form. The trouble is that the programmers are lazy, nearly thirty years ago I had a programme I wrote for my BBC Computer that would accept NGR with or without spaces and with different precisions yet it is common to find programs and sites which will only accept a NGR in one format. I didn't have it recognising these all numeric ones because I had never seen them at the time but I would have done if I had.

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22 Nov 2012 18:56 #29 by REF
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See our earlier discussion as part of this thread: /community/showthread.php?5997-Grid-References-and-NW-England-Coastal-Sites


should these threads be merged?

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23 Nov 2012 05:14 #30 by PETERTHEEATER
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Right! Thanks. Took me a while to 'get it' but finally understood and tried some samples which worked but not WORKSOP; still way out..

EDIT: Took a break and came back to it and got Worksop in the correct place!

The 'Kilmarnock' site listed in the link is actually Beith Munitions Factory. What's in a name! I did not have it noted as having a WW2 CW connection so will have to dig more.

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