Unknown Wartime Site

13 Nov 2019 08:36 - 13 Nov 2019 08:42 #1 by Corkish
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good morning all,

whilst looking at wartime aerial photos of the Isle of Man I have come across the following that appears in the early 1940s. Would anyone have any idea if it may be a military site?



The site is here


Any assistance gratefully received.

thank you

Chris

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13 Nov 2019 10:28 - 13 Nov 2019 10:33 #2 by TerryClark
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good morning all,

whilst looking at wartime aerial photos of the Isle of Man I have come across the following that appears in the early 1940s. Would anyone have any idea if it may be a military site?



The site is here


Any assistance gratefully received.

thank you

Chris


Photo appears to be N at bottom left near Creg ny Baa, from where I watched the 1968 Seniot (500cc) and Lightweight (125cc) races.
On ZoomEarth there's a microwave relay station on the same site so it was probably a wartime radio station of some sort.
The main NATS Radio station is on Snaefell several miles north.

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24 Jul 2020 08:07 #3 by Corkish
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I have now found that this was the Douglas Radio Site that linked with Holyhead. I found some interesting articles on the site at www.digitalarchives.bt.com/Calmview/

The site comprised of transmitter, receiver and power buildings. Not much remains now other than the access road and a few small remnants.

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26 Jul 2020 15:16 #4 by carnaby
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Photo appears to be N at bottom left near Creg ny Baa, from where I watched the 1968 Seniot (500cc) and Lightweight (125cc) races.
On ZoomEarth there's a microwave relay station on the same site so it was probably a wartime radio station of some sort.
The main NATS Radio station is on Snaefell several miles north.

There's a wonderful controly towery thing here with the repeater station in the background

goo.gl/maps/6K2NjTG2Z9jd3BGB7

Plan A is always more effective when the problem you are working on understands that Plan B will involve the use of dynamite :twisted:

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26 Jul 2020 20:01 #5 by kebecker
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very TT complete with a grandstand, or grandseat

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26 Jul 2020 21:09 #6 by Peter Kirk
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Wasn't the TT replaced by OO/HO :)

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27 Jul 2020 06:12 #7 by mbriscoe
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Many islands had VHF radio links before everything moved to microwave (and even earlier there were MF transmitters to cover faults on submarine cables - I have been trying to find again a website about the reserve equipment the Post Office had on the Hebridean islands pre-WWII. There were some nice stories about someone going around testing it in the Summer. But the website / webpage seems to have disappeared.)

Also in WWII the GPO had submarine cables from Colwyn Bay area to Lancaster via the Isle of Man, to provide alternative routes in the event of large disruption around Merseyside and Manchester. So possible that these had a radio backup.

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27 Jul 2020 06:39 - 27 Jul 2020 06:40 #8 by TerryClark
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Photo appears to be N at bottom left near Creg ny Baa, from where I watched the 1968 Seniot (500cc) and Lightweight (125cc) races.
On ZoomEarth there's a microwave relay station on the same site so it was probably a wartime radio station of some sort.
The main NATS Radio station is on Snaefell several miles north.

There's a wonderful controly towery thing here with the repeater station in the background

goo.gl/maps/6K2NjTG2Z9jd3BGB7

That's the microwave tower I mentioned in the background; 'control tower' looks like possibly a commentary position; when I was there in '68 the only building was the pub on the far end, all that balconied bit has been added since as there was just a grassy bank there from where we watched the races.
As Giacomo Agostini (500cc MV Agusta) came round the corner, I lifted my telephoto lens to take a photo; he must have seen the movement because although he was still cranked over away from me from taking the corner, he turned his head towards me and grinned! (no full face helmets in those days, just a 'pudding basin')
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