I had an interesting reply on my video from another forum. To quote exactly:
"A lot of the infrastructure of WW2 ( everywhere in the world ) was made of inferior materials, too quickly build, neglecting local needs or even archeology. It was a war of survival.
The wooden baracks have gone. Many concrete structures have fallen apart because of concrete rot and rusty reinforcment steel. It wasn't build to last, just to do its work for the war effort. ( If I am not wrong, the Allies calculated that the war would last untill 1946-beginning 1947 ) The same infrastructure built after the war was of much better quality and many buildings of the Cold War era are still being used."
Although, I think there is a typo on the dates, I realize that some buildings must be a total write off. But what I am curious to know, would the majority be in really bad shape (beyond any type of restoration). Or this would just be a small percentage?
The person who compiled this is partly correct. However I do not agree with most of it. Generally speaking the basic building materials were not inferior to that used in civil engineering, apart from maybe prefabrication most of which came about because raw materials were becoming harder to source (like Canadian Cedar wood or other quality timber sourced in the Baltic states) so we had to make do with home grown timber (for example) which is inferior to the real stuff. Archaeology yes was neglected during WWII but not during the expansion period where archaeology was carried out as when artifacts were found, there are plenty of reports published on this. With regards to wooden barracks, well I can assure you that expansion period timber huts, if they were regularly maintained would have lasted way beyond 2011 (Canadian Cedar). Indeed I have seen WWI huts which are nearly 100 years old in good condition!
Concrete has suffered not because, the mix was wrong or the design was wrong, but because the original specifications were not adhered to by the contractors and this problem is not just to do with the austerity conditions of WWII, but a factor even with modern contractors. The problem with concrete, is the thickness of the outer layer over the reinforcing bars - this is often too thin, enabling damp to get at the bars and the bars rusting, thus expanding and spalling the concrete. If the proper specs were maintained by the contractor in the first place then these structures would be good today.
I do not agree with the statement that CW structures are better quality, this is a generalisation based no hard facts.
You can tell a builder from an archaeologist by the size of his trowel. Mine is a small one!
I wonder if the huts are still standing at Tain? They were built in wwii and I was living in them 30 years ago. Leuchars has SECO huts from wwii that are still standing. Im not an expert in construction but doesnt it all boil down to care and maintenance of buildings? And that is something that tends to come as a suprise to the bean counters at MOD!
Where wartime builds have been in constant use and have had routine maintenance, then they are often as good as the year they were built. Even on airfields that have seen no post war use, it is possible to find the odd building that seems to have defied decay and dilapidation. For the most part I think it is quite amazing that so much is left of structures that were not meant to be standing, let alone in use, seventy years on.
A testiment to to how good they were actually constructed methinks!
Notwithstanding the quality of materials that were available for temporary buildings constructed for WW2 use, the builders were either time-served men in specific specialist trades (bricklayers, plumbers, electricians, formwork and shuttering etc) or who were supervised by experienced tradesman who, due to personal pride in their work, would not easily let shoddy work pass even when pressed with time restraints. They did the best that they could with what was available. An added benefit was that the constructors were older men, often with minor disabilities which rendered them unfit for military service and this brought a wealth of experience to the job.
As recognised by the previous comments, one does not have to look far to find examples of wartime build structures that are still fit for service.
Thanks for the replies! Certainly solidifies my faith in the condition of the buildings and definitely testifies to the absolute need for the preservation of these historical landmarks. Would anyone in this thread mine if I pulled portions of their comments to use in response in the other forum (no names mentioned of course!)
I agree with previous comments. The materials on the whole are excellent as are the standards of construction, it is amazing that these temporary structures are still standing 70 years on. Its just that, like all buildings, they need a little maintenance. Most of the ones I know have had little or no work done on them since 1945 and they still stand.
This week I've had a corner of my house rendered. Gave the builder a lump of render from a WW2 Nissen hut gable end, frost had damaged the brick which is why the lump came away but the render applied 70 years ago was still bound to the brick, I got my chap to duplicate it. If my new render gives out in 70 years, I shan't be too worried about it but its a testimony to how well the job was done in WW2.
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