ITWs Initial Training Wings

11 Jun 2012 13:31 #11 by Granite
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yes, the process didn't seem to take long.... from the AGS, the next step would be around a month at OTU Operational Training Unit, where they'd make up a crew and learn to fly and fight. Next step was an HCU Heavy Conversion Unit which was in effect a novice bomber squadron, Jack and his crew spent 3 months there, before being posted to their first front line squadron, which was 103 at Elsham Wolds

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11 Jun 2012 14:07 #12 by pauline
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Thanks again. This is all very helpful. I know about OTUs as my father was stationed at 26 OTU, Wing in Buckinghamshire, from early 1942 until the end of the war. I have heard a lot about the training of the bomber crews! I believe that air gunners had to be trained wireless operators as well, and I think that Andy must have been flying either as a wireless operator or a rear gunner before being assigned to the Lancaster as the Mid Upper Gunner as he had already flown in Wellingtons, although I suppose that that could have been as part of his training.

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02 Oct 2014 14:27 #13 by netcompsys
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Not sure how the '3 Sqn' ties in with an Initial Training Wing.

Surely there would be three or more 'squadrons' at any one ITW


Going through my fathers photos I have one (of a Flt Sgt standing in front of goal posts) which is stamped on the back
No 4 SQDN
25 JUN 1942
No 12 I.T.W. R.A.F

Anyone know where 12 Initial Training Wing was located?
Could this be St Andrews? and if so is that Dundee or somewhere else

Thanks

kevin

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02 Oct 2014 15:07 #14 by ianbache
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This from
www.raf-lichfield.co.uk/GroundUnits.htm

AIR 29/634 Initial Training Wings: No 12 St Andrews 1941 May - 1944 Apr

Hope it helps

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02 Oct 2014 15:14 #15 by P Bellamy
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AIR 29/634 Initial Training Wings: No. 12 St Andrews May 1941 - Apr 1944.

Doh, Ian beat me to it. ;)

Paul Bellamy

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02 Oct 2014 15:21 #16 by ianbache
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AIR 29/634 Initial Training Wings: No. 12 St Andrews May 1941 - Apr 1944.

Doh, Ian beat me to it. ;)


Cheers Paul,
It may be the first and only time though i was lucky

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02 Oct 2014 15:22 #17 by P Bellamy
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According to one record, billeting was in the Grand Hotel, lectures being held in St. Andrews University.

www.no-50-and-no-61-squadrons-associatio...789463826/mickey.pdf

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02 Oct 2014 15:47 #18 by netcompsys
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Thanks gents

Here are two group photos from that time, the backgrounds might be of interest

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02 Oct 2014 15:51 #19 by netcompsys
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This from
www.raf-lichfield.co.uk/GroundUnits.htm

AIR 29/634 Initial Training Wings: No 12 St Andrews 1941 May - 1944 Apr

Hope it helps

Regards Ian


Nice link, thanks

I guess that some of these receiving and despatch centres were admin locations rather than places where the men would actually be all the time?

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02 Oct 2014 16:51 #20 by carnaby
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No. 54 Group Sunningdale was responsible for the Initial Training Wings. In July 1942 they were:
1 Babbacombe
2 Cambridge
3 Torquay
4 Paignton
5 Torquay
6 Aberystwyth
7 Newquay
8 Newquay
9 Stratford-on-Avon
10 Scarborough
11 Scarborough
12 St Andrews
13 Torquay
14 Bridlington

54 Group also controlled:
Bournemouth - No.3 Personnel Reception Centre, RCAF Band

Brighton - Aircrew Disposal Wing

Eastbourne - No.1 Elementary Air Navigation School

Harrogate - No.7 Personnel Reception Centre

Heaton Park - Air Crew Despatch Centre

London - Air Crew Receiving Centre

Ludlow - Air Crew Camp
.
Source: SD161. By 1944 most of the above had changed significantly LINK

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