Cassini maps

26 Jun 2015 09:26 #21 by Peter Kirk
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I will give the TIFF conversion a try and let you know. Part of the problem may be my 4GB of memory! It was big when I bought the PC but now seems to be the minimum! I also found the website speeded up in the early hours.

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28 Jun 2015 19:24 #22 by OneEighthBit
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Peter,

If recall those BIG aerial coverages of south glos/wiltshire I gave you were JP2? I think I sent them in that format for convenience due to size. Truth be told, I still have the original TIFFs of them and ER Viewer just seems to be able to handle them better.

BTW, make sure you've got the latest version of ER Viewer. Turned out they've made quite a few updates since I last got it. Maybe a newer version will handle the JP2s better.

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28 Jun 2015 22:08 #23 by Peter Kirk
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They were ECW files and these worked brilliantly in ER Viewer 13.0 but I recall an earlier version used to crash after zooming in. The largest ECW files I have are over 400mb and have never been a problem. I'll take a look at the latest version in case 13.0 is a problem with JP2 files. I think I originally used Mr Sid for ECW files but that was around the turn of the century.

I downloaded all the 1943/4 AIR sheets and these are not too big but still make ER Viewer resource hungry but I now save out sections I require as JPEGs and this is base on the amount in view, which it saves at full resolution.

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29 Jun 2015 20:30 #24 by OneEighthBit
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Oh dear...

Just out of curiosity I looked up the ECW format: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECW_%28file_format%29 and had a chat with a bloke at work who specialises in image optimisation and formats.

He said that most likely it could be that the wavelet compression used in ECW/JP2 could be taking more of your CPU and memory to decompress due to the mathematics involved in recreating the chunks. He said that TIFF, though larger on disk, requires less computer processing to display as the data is just stored as a stream of pixel data.

In his infinite wisdom he said it's a trade off between file size and processing speed - ECW/JP2 will save space and the cost of loss of fidelity and processing time versus TIFF which saves fidelity and processing but takes up more space.

The conversation then fell into a hole about discreet cosine transforms and offloading wavelet processing to GPU's so I bought another beer... :D

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29 Jun 2015 22:04 #25 by Iain Taylor
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The conversation then fell into a hole about discreet cosine transforms and offloading wavelet processing to GPU's .....

Around this time the conversations about graphics formats here seem to turn to how effective compressed graphics formats are for carrying all sorts of other data of use to cryptographers and terrorists...I usually need an analgesic by then.

(The tiff versions of the England/Wales/Scotland maps mentioned by Peter and Martin total about 250Gig. On this fairly ancient PC with 2 gig RAM and a steam processor the tiffs open fairly quickly in irfanview / gimp...the jp2 versions I gave up trying to open)

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