Gun Post

01 Jan 2019 20:15 #11 by P Bellamy
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Looks good for being the remains of a Motley Stalk LMG position, with what's left of a concrete pipe "pit" around it.

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05 Jan 2019 20:10 #12 by kebecker
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There is a vey nice picture in ARG Research notes no 13 (Page 19) of a Lewis LAA post at RAF Lakenheath.
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06 Jan 2019 12:38 #13 by Garth Barnard
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Very interesting indeed. The Gun Post I found is at ground level. Would it have had sandbags or a concrete encirclement built up around it?

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06 Jan 2019 13:34 #14 by netcompsys
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It sounds like you are expecting there to be standard designs, like pillboxs, but I suggest that these generaly were tactical and improvised positions, their layout and the materials would depend on availablity and the local terrain and local command and defence needs and experience

More often than not they would have been built by the men who were to man them, the only constant being the positions suitbility for a particular weapon or weapon mount

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06 Jan 2019 13:45 #15 by mbriscoe
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Thngs like that also seemed to depend a lot on the whim of the local builder who might not always follow the plans!

The only standard bit is where the gun was bolted down. There are examples in the Defence of Britain book but I have always wanted a comprehensive guide to all mountings so they can be identified from diameter, number/size/spacing of the bolts etc.

I did once start copying pages from a few books but lost them now.
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06 Jan 2019 16:08 #16 by Peter Kirk
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Would it also be dependant on who built them? I assume the Army would have been part of aerodrome defence, possibly Home Guard until the RAF Regiment was up and running. A lot of weapons pits appear on aerial photographs from the period and these appear to be rings of earth or sandbags with a gap to get into it. They do not seem to be perfectly round.

Did the Army have a section in their fieldcraft manual for AA defence positions and did the RAF Regiment use the same? I can't seem to locate my copy of the Airfield Defences book, I suspect the wife has tidied things up, but I doubt it covers local initiatives.

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06 Jan 2019 16:25 #17 by netcompsys
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Doesn't matter who built them, the blokes who sat in them would have soon made them "better"

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07 Jan 2019 09:42 #18 by TerryClark
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When I visited Upper Heyford in about 1981, the airfield was surrounded by gun pits for armed guards consisting simply of a standard oil drum with the top removed sunk into the ground.
How these were drained after a rainstorm I don't know!

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07 Jan 2019 11:21 #19 by canberra
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I suspect that a lot of gun pits were built by whats known as "self help", Im sure the SWO would have found work for defaulterers!

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19 Jan 2019 09:33 #20 by canberra
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And I have never seen a picture of BRENs being used as an anti-aircraft gun on RAF airfields.

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