Concorde

07 Feb 2019 20:05 #11 by Radars
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It was said at the time that the runway at Filton was too short for Concord to land back there. But, not sure of that fact.
I think that initially a Canberra was the chase plane for Concord, but when speed testing built up they used a Phantom.

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07 Feb 2019 20:08 #12 by Radars
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Meant to add that Concord was no noisier than a Vulcan. It was the breaking of the sound barrier that caused the problem. Upset the cows milking etc!! And the Yanks could not match it so didn't want it.
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07 Feb 2019 20:33 #13 by Peter Kirk
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Wasn't there a story about a news reporter chatting to protesters in New York and asking them about Concorde and they said they wanted it banned because of the noise it made and that they would hear it come in. The reported added that it landed some time ago and they hadn't noticed. The 707 was a noisy and dirty beast and the humble BAC 1-11 was not exactly quiet. Probably all as noisy as Concorde. In its later years the turbo fan was king and that made Concorde sound loud in comparison.

Couldn't Concorde outrun a Phantom?

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07 Feb 2019 21:20 - 07 Feb 2019 21:21 #14 by John Anderson
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Initially scheduled BA Concorde flights operated to Bahrain and Singapore, with Air France operating to Rio de Janeiro due to the ban on Concorde into New York. The Concorde service to/from Singapore was 3 times weekly and was a joint BA/SQ service. One Concorde had the Singapore Airlines livery on the port side and BA livery on the starboard side. Flight crew were BA with a mix of BA and SQ cabin crew.

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08 Feb 2019 12:12 #15 by canberra
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I have heard that Concord(e)landed on 05/23 at Heathrow with a full load of passengers, and that runway was shorter that Filtons. In fact the last time I saw Concord(e) flying was at Newcastle, and again a runway approximately as long as 05/23 at Heathrow.

And as for supersonic chase I thought they used a Lightning.

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08 Feb 2019 15:09 - 08 Feb 2019 15:09 #16 by netcompsys
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For the first flight of 002 the chase plane was a Canberra

Pretty sure the french used an Meteor NF11

Dont think there was much supersonic chasing going on other than the well know "supersonic" photo taken from an RAF Tornado F3

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08 Feb 2019 16:00 #17 by netcompsys
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Concorde at Fairford - Photograph taken 18 July 1969
via Historic England

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08 Feb 2019 16:48 #18 by mothminor
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Yes the French used Meteor NF11-6 as chase plane. From www.concordesst.com/history/events/pictures/001maiden2.jpg - (which unfortunately refers to it as a Mirage!)

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08 Feb 2019 22:41 #19 by carnaby
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It was said at the time that the runway at Filton was too short for Concord to land back there. But, not sure of that fact..

I would have thought that landing needed a shorter runway than take-off, (as the latter has to cope with an aborted take-off around V1), but I might be wrong.

Fairford's runway is 3,047 and Filton's 2,490 metres. However Fairford is in open country and Filton has always had opposition to flying from local residents.

On one occasion Concorde landed on George Town's 2,150m runway

www.upi.com/Archives/1984/10/20/Concorde...sland/6427467092800/

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10 Feb 2019 11:27 #20 by canberra
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I have heard that Roly Beamont was given a choice of being either test pilot for Concord(e) or TSR2. Apparently he thought that Concord(e) would be scrapped so he chose TSR2.

And I no nothing about the supersonic photos from an F3, please enlighten me. But I do know the famous formation of 4 Concord(e)s was taken from a Learjet.

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