Quadrant sight

15 Oct 2011 21:41 #11 by kebecker
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Nellis AFB

Tower observers at a bombing range relay target information back to the scoring team on the main base during Operation Gunsmoke '81

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16 Oct 2011 00:43 #12 by P Bellamy
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The instrument in that photo would appear to be an artillery Aiming Circle (Director in Royal Artillery terms), being a US one it will be graduated in Mils.

It looks to be an M2-series Aiming Circle on an M24 Tripod, and the operator needs a head-slap for having his hand on the tripod while taking a bearing... ;)

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PB

Paul Bellamy

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16 Oct 2011 02:27 #13 by kebecker
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and you really think the observer can get an accurate fix one handed ?

head slap

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16 Oct 2011 07:18 #14 by PETERTHEEATER
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I find it odd that an Aiming Circle should be used for plotting bomb bursts although the caption doesn't actually say that; the field of view is too small. Now, if they are actually plotting the location of the Target especially one that has moved it makes more sense.

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16 Oct 2011 08:12 #15 by Peter Kirk
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It is missing the one vital piece of equipment - the cup/mug!

It is odd that in 1946 the Air Ministry were looking at automatic quadrants to save on manpower and improve accuracy, yet hear we are today and they are still using the same system (the equipment, comms and probably the odd computer excepted) as pre-war days.

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23 Oct 2011 10:31 #16 by canberra
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I dont think the USAF pictures is all its cracked up to be, Id be very suprised if theyre using that piece of kit to plot bomb scores.

Its a very staged picture.

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23 Oct 2011 12:01 #17 by Peter Kirk
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The automatic strike recorder for air to ground strikes was in use by 1950 (no idea where at the moment) so it seems probable that an automatic system for plotting bomb strikes would have been in use by now. Maybe it was too expensive a nut to crack?

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24 Oct 2011 06:04 #18 by PETERTHEEATER
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There is an acoustic system in use for scoring gun strikes but for bombs.....?

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28 Oct 2011 01:02 #19 by kebecker
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The Americans were using something called TOSS, Tactical Ordnance Scoring System on some ranges, I have seen some pictures on the DODimage site, will see if I can find them again

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28 Oct 2011 07:50 #20 by Peter Kirk
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I wonder what the operators of the system were called?

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