Runway Slope/Gradient

23 Jul 2010 07:11 #11 by Richard Drew
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Most wartime raf airfields seem to be built on a hump and from the threshold you cannot see the end. Turweston starts on a slope up and then drops down a long way. Dale also rises and falls. With Netheravon an old WW1 grass Field the Dakotas reckoned they took off twice due to the runway dipping in the middle. Tarrant Rushton rises up and has a few dips and bumps.

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23 Jul 2010 11:13 #12 by Chris Lowe
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Desborough has a huge hump as well as you certainly can't see from one side to the other.

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23 Jul 2010 19:56 #13 by canberra
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I dont think there can be any runway which is flat. And certainly in the days of the cold war RAF runways did have chain marks on the, it was for the ADR(air field damage repair) Sappers. Basically the helicopters used for post attack recce would say what size the crater was and give it with reference to chain markings.

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23 Jul 2010 20:51 #14 by Granite
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Eastmoor is probably one of the 'humpiest' runways I can think of.......... mind u plotting a route on memory map down the main runway only gives a descent of 26ft from north to south which dosent sound too bad, but it always looked a lot worse than that!

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24 Jul 2010 12:43 #15 by SNAFU
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And certainly in the days of the cold war RAF runways did have chain marks on the, it was for the ADR(air field damage repair) Sappers. Basically the helicopters used for post attack recce would say what size the crater was and give it with reference to chain markings.

We still use miles and chains on the Railway and in our Sectional Appendixes (map books). Although they're a very old concept, a 22 yard measure is good amount for when you're "out on the ground" looking for a feature.

What's 22 yards look like ? Well, most people can visualise a cricket pitch !

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24 Jul 2010 12:53 #16 by canberra
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And on the subject of cricket pitches, Lords is famous for its slope!

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13 Aug 2010 19:21 #17 by robert.haig
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Hi
They did not "shave" the most famous hump of all, main runway Biggin Hill.

Was at the time and still is called the "hump"

Regards Robert.H

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17 Aug 2010 13:06 #18 by Resmoroh
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For those who want to be accurate, a properly used optical theodolite with surveyor's staff will give a resolution down to centimeters (or inches - depending on one's religion!). The fancy laser theodolites are probably even more accurate.
But if anybody wants to check out runway Slope/Gradient for themselves from the comfort of their own Idiot's Lantern there is wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?l . Use the combination of OS+Satellite. At the bottom of the OS side is a clickable device which will give the various heights over a straight line. Quite a smart program!
HTH
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17 Aug 2010 14:34 #19 by carnaby
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An interesting program Resmoroh - not convinced about the accuracy.
Filton 45 to 67 metres
Woodbridge 24 to 27
Manston 49m to 55 m
Bentwaters 19 to 25m
Horsham 27 to 37 m - with a dip below 20 metres in the middle
Sculthorpe 56 to 64
Coningsby 3 to 11m
Waddington 66 to 74 m
Wittering 75 to 84m
Scampton - no data
N Luff 94 to 108m
Leuchars 13 to 16m
Wonder how others get on

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17 Aug 2010 15:22 #20 by Richard Drew
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After spending way too much time playing with wheresThePath, I looked at many airfields. Thank you for finding a new toy to play with.

Richard

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