Avro Vulcan

I agree.

When VTTS had one of their (many) financial crises a few years ago they listed a number of options, one of which was static in the UK, the other was sell her in her flying condition to a buyer in the US. The thing that sets VH558 apart is that she does what she's supposed to and to plonk her into a static museum would be a travesty. If she can't fly after 2013 (and that seems definate) then she surely should be somewhere where she can stretch her legs from time to time.

East Kirby. I've got hundreds of suggestions, most of them daft.

If she's static at Doncaster, and running her down the runway becomes too difficult, then there's plenty of other static tin triangles I can go and see, closer to home with other things to look at afterwards.

I bet it'll end up back at Bruntingthorpe one day

MethodMan;113062 wrote:

I bet it'll end up back at Bruntingthorpe one day

Yeah, someone will buy the cockpit and stick it on a trailer...

Serviceable runway, cold war links, and close to Grace, another site for the discussion:

www.bentwatersparks.com/to-let/building-45

Jerry;113085 wrote:

Serviceable runway, cold war links, and close to Grace, another site for the discussion:

www.bentwatersparks.com/to-let/building-45

YES PLEASE!! but will it fit in any of Bentwaters' hangars?!

Here's an article i've copied from the UKAR (UK Airshow Review) website regarding 558's retirement, Doncaster and Bruntingthorpe which i found intresting -

UKAR's Dan O'Hagan states the case for sending her "home" to Bruntingthorpe.

It appears that the VTTS plan is to erect, at great cost, a most-impressive glass, Vulcan-shaped building at Doncaster Robin Hood Airport to house the jet, which would be maintained in ground-running condition. Effectively this would be a one-exhibit museum, paying homage to Britain's engineering legacy, and it is claimed, inspiring the next generation of would-be designers and scientists. We quote the outline of the planned centre below, and you can read the complete VTTS consultation document on the so-called "Ve³" project here .
For me, this really doesn't add up. For a start, Doncaster's hardly on the tourist trail, and with static Vulcans available to view at both Newark and Waddington in the vicinity, how many people would be willing to pay to see another example, albeit one living in a shiny new building? And is engineering really the stuff of a family day out?
Reaction from the enthusiast community has been almost totally negative. Some excellent and valid points have been made by our forum members, among them the notion that a Vulcan inspires engineers only when it is flying, not sitting in a hangar. And there are "live" examples of the type at both Wellesbourne (XM655) and Southend (XL426), not to mention the mighty Victors at Elvington and Bruntingthorpe.
There's no question that '558 should be preserved, in as close to flying condition as possible, and for as long as possible. The aircraft is genuinely loved by much of the aviation community (though I'd question the notion that the wider public embrace the type in quite the way some would have us believe). And this is another reason why Doncaster is a non-starter.
This is an airport with big ideas for its future. An airport which is commercially-run, and where every square foot of real estate needs to be maximised for best profit. How long do you think a profit-hungry airport would tolerate a loss-making museum on it's turf? And what would become of XH558 then? The options would be to either scrap her, or chop her up for road transport, almost certainly prohibiting future ground running of the machine.

And that is why I feel she has to go to an airfield or museum where she can stretch her legs without the need to be a constant cash-generator. For this, surely her former home at Bruntingthorpe is the only viable solution. There she can be looked after (almost certainly outside) at an airfield rich in a pool of volunteer talent, already expert in keeping a Victor, Comet, Lightnings, Buccaneers and Canberra "alive" and taxying.
Imagine that, a Vulcan and Victor screaming down Bruntingthorpe's runway at near full power? Would that inspire Johnny Would-Be-Grease-Monkey more than a Vulcan in a greenhouse? Or a Vulcan chopped up after a well-intentioned project went bust and became homeless?
Enthusiasts like us have funded XH558's "second life" since 2007, either via donations, by buying merchandise or through admission tickets to shows where the aircraft has displayed. How often at those shows are we told ad nauseum that we are watching "The People's Aircraft"? Now is the time for VTTS to prove that, and let those who care as much as anyone about her - we enthusiasts - decide where this iconic airframe is retired to.

HERE HERE !! I agree enierly . The only thing about brining her back to Brunty is the hanger spase for her to be kept in mint condition .
If she was out side i think over time the weather would have a bad efect on her airframe . What ever happens she must be preserved in some kind of working order.
Regards ,
AL.
Bomber .

I agree 100% with everything Mr O’Hagan says.

Most of what is in the VTTS proposal looks to me like politically correct claptrap. How in heavens name can you reconcile a nuclear bomber with “how engineering contributes to protecting the environment”? I can really imagine the displays explaining the wonderful British technology that spawned Yellow Sun and Blue Steel in the context of environmental friendliness. I’m afraid I have never been a fan of the “management” of VTTS and this latest nonsense reinforces my negative views.

I really hope 558 is destined for a better fate than what the VTTS are apparently planning and I’d happily see her at Bruntinthorpe even if that means living outside.

I too concur with post #243. What I don't understand is how the millions that VTTS obviously have to fund a new 'greenhouse' at Doncaster, can't be spent on a hangar at, oh, I don't know...Bruntingthorpe? Perhaps even big enough to house the Victor if the shiny bits are kept to just one elevation...

Obviously, such a structure would have to be welcomed at Brunters, but I'm sure it would be!

It's funny how "Cold War History" mattered so little at Finningley that the developers there were quite keen to clear the site of anything not capable of generating a profit yet are now considering this "bubble." My bet, after a few years, would be that pressure would be applied to remove it on spurious "security" grounds or "inappropriate in a nuclear free zone."
East Midlands Aeropark were given the run-around by the powers-that-be there a few years ago. Something I couldn't understand as all airports have continual gripers on noise/pollution grounds, you'd think that they'd be after every-aviation aware friend they could get.