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29 Apr 2014 19:26 #11
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'372 served with 1TRS at Alconbury between 1979 and 83 Richard. 
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04 Oct 2014 07:37 #12
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Black Mike at Leuchars many years ago.
...Soon to find a new home at Bruntingthorpe & hopefully kept 'live' -
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04 Oct 2014 12:20 #14
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Anyone got any pics of the Coningsby gate guardian in its new 41 Sqn colours?
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10 Nov 2014 12:26 #15
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Whilst looking at the use of the Otterburn tactical ranges (Redesdale) I noticed a comment that the Phantom was not allowed to use gunnery due to the spillage of unfired rounds. I assume this was because these rounds would fall outside the live area but still inside the danger area. Was this a Phantom problem and if so why wasn't it solved before service? The date of this was 1971.
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10 Nov 2014 13:41 #16
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Was this the same with the Starfighter? Same (Vulcan) gun.
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10 Nov 2014 14:25 #17
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The problem with the Phantoms gun AFAIK was such that it wasnt allowed to use the air to ground ranges in the UK. It was allowed to use the air to air ranges as they are over the sea. I believe that the problem only occured with the gun pod and not with the internal gun.
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10 Nov 2014 15:28 #18
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I don't think the Phantom had an internal gun, hence the reason for the gun pod.
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The problem with the Phantoms gun AFAIK was such that it wasnt allowed to use the air to ground ranges in the UK. It was allowed to use the air to air ranges as they are over the sea. I believe that the problem only occured with the gun pod and not with the internal gun.
I don't think the Phantom had an internal gun, hence the reason for the gun pod.
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10 Nov 2014 16:27 #19
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Fitted with internal 20mm cannon from the F-4E onwards.
However, all the UK airframes were developed from the F-4B series so external gun pods only.
However, all the UK airframes were developed from the F-4B series so external gun pods only.
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10 Nov 2014 17:05 #20
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ISTR Raymond Baxter fronting a TV programme sometime in the early 70s that included a Phantom shooting up old vehicles somewhere on Salisbury Plain. A 6 Sqn machine carrying a SUU pod, I believe. I was told years later that it could only be used on the centre-line pylon as the wings flexed too much to use the outer points.
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