1941 Fighter Command Sector Ops Rooms?

17 Jun 2014 20:55 #1 by P Bellamy
1941 Fighter Command Sector Ops Rooms? was created by P Bellamy
The large (163' x 80') Operations Block formerly at Atcham is listed as being to AM Dwgs. 5291-5/41.
Middle Wallop (demolished) and Fairwood Common had one too (also demolished), Exeter's one survives next to the 60s ROC HQ, and what appear to be the remains of one at Woodvale are also standing.

So far the only things these five sites had in common are that:
A: The Ops Block was built a notable distance away from the airfield
B: They were all Fighter Command Sector Stations

Were there any more examples built?

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18 Jun 2014 13:25 #2 by P Bellamy
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Thanks to NP for pointing out the (unfinished?) example at Tain. :)

I'll also add the demolished one at Peterhead and the surviving one at Barnton Quarry for Turnhouse.

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19 Jun 2014 19:39 #3 by P Bellamy
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A couple of rough "by eye" renders to illustrate.

The "full" version:

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And the "reduced" version seen at Tain and Woodvale:

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Amalgam of the Portreath and Middle Wallop layouts showing the attached TB annexes:

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24 Jun 2014 15:51 #4 by P Bellamy
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Working list so far.
Computer model above amended to reflect the "Attached Offices" type. The main Ops Block on at least two of these is noticably shorter than the "full" version:
Sector
LocationOfficesStatusLength
AtchamRAF AtchamInternalDemolished163'
BallyhalbertTubber Na CarrigInternalDemolished163'
ExeterPoltimore ParkInternalExtant163'
Fairwood CommonClyne CommonInternalDemolished163'
Middle WallopOver WallopAnnexesDemolished140'
PeterheadHowe o' BuchanInternalDemolished163'
PortreathTregea HillAnnexesExtant140'
TainRAF TainAnnexesExtant163'
TireeBaughInternalExtant163'
TurnhouseBarnton QuarryInternalExtant163'
ValleyLlanfihangel Yn NhywynInternalExtant163'
WoodvaleRAF WoodvaleAnnexes?Extant (Partial)N/A

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27 Jun 2014 07:35 #5 by PETERTHEEATER
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Here's another Paul.

RAF Tiree, it's somewhere here:

wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=5...grat=None&rgrat=None

Described as Building 502 on RSP TRE566 26 NOV 43

Look at Post # 9 in the Tiree thread and see Martin's pictures under 'All RAF images Tiree'

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27 Jun 2014 08:52 #6 by P Bellamy
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I see it, just off to the east. :)

Thanks Peter.

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27 Jun 2014 12:11 #7 by mbriscoe
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Here's another Paul.

RAF Tiree, it's somewhere here:

wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=5...grat=None&rgrat=None

Described as Building 502 on RSP TRE566 26 NOV 43

Look at Post # 9 in the Tiree thread and see Martin's pictures under 'All RAF images Tiree'


Collected the Operations Block images together here , both of them.

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27 Jun 2014 16:26 #8 by deprecated
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As we seem to have at least two variants are they all to the same set of drawing numbers (which comprise of at least 5291/41 to 5295/41) or just a subset?

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27 Jun 2014 16:55 #9 by mbriscoe
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What was the Ops Room at Ouston , we visited it some years ago but can't remember the details.

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27 Jun 2014 17:20 #10 by P Bellamy
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The "full" version of the Sector Operations Block is given as 5291-5/41 on the Atcham RSP, although the series may also include 5296/41.
None of these drawings seem to be held by RAFM Hendon.
As most of the "reduced" ones seem to include the bulk of the "full" design they may be to an as yet unknown deviation drawing.

Ouston appears to have a Fighter Station Operations Block to AM Dwg. 16266/39 but without the WAAF Rest Room.

Why some sector stations got these new Ops Rooms during the 41-43 period and others retained their pre/early-war ones is still a mystery.
I've yet to identify any sites in the 11 and 12 Group areas, and other stations that would be expected to have one, Honiley for example, are still unknowns.

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