ORB abbreviations

13 Jan 2014 15:28 #71 by Peter Kirk
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I came across an order to use Aldis signals in place of pyrotechnic signals on air to air ranges. The reference given was A.M.C.O. A.10/1941. What did AMCO stand for in 1941? I am assuming it wasn't Air Maintenance Control Office at that time, or was it?

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13 Jan 2014 15:57 #72 by MikeO
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My guess is that AM is Air Ministry and the O is Order. Might C stand for Control?

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14 Jan 2014 22:54 #73 by Kevin Aeronca old
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Belated observations:
NEA (Non-Effective Airframe) I believe means that the aircraft is no longer to be fitted with the routine mods which would allow it to be issued to a flying unit at short notice. In other words, it is expected never to be used again.

EIC, Could this be E1C? Cat E is write-off in the old system (E1 and E2 indicating degrees of salvage possible). E1c later became Cat 5c, the 'c' indicating the possibility of salvaging components.

MRCA The other 'meaning' -- alluding to delays with the Tornado programme -- was Must Refurbish Canberra Again

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15 Jan 2014 07:40 #74 by PETERTHEEATER
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The 'factory' BAC employees seconded to Airwork Services referred to the MRCA (Multi Role Combat Aircraft) as 'Mother Riley's Cardboard Aeroplane' You would have to be a bit long in the tooth to understand that one!

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15 Jan 2014 09:29 #75 by carnaby
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I came across an order to use Aldis signals in place of pyrotechnic signals on air to air ranges. The reference given was A.M.C.O. A.10/1941. What did AMCO stand for in 1941? I am assuming it wasn't Air Maintenance Control Office at that time, or was it?


'Air Ministry Confidential Order' - I'm 99% certain

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15 Jan 2014 09:41 #76 by Peter Kirk
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Thanks, confidential makes sense, I think. I had, like Mike O poste assumed that AM was Air Ministry and that O could be order but was stuck on the "C" word. However, having been caught before on assuming I was quite prepared for AM to be something else!

Air Ministry Confidential Order it is.

Afterthought:
What is the name of non-confidential orders? It's like the new term "Human Resources" it implies there is another type of resource - inhuman or alien maybe :)

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17 Jan 2014 13:01 #77 by mawganmad
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There certainly was an AM Confidential Order (& an AMO Class B) as Graham says, see here, www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php...cord-enquiry-W/page2
You wouldn't think that it would apply to an Aldis lamp, but maybe it was for the signal codes?

Afterthought:
What is the name of non-confidential orders?


...AMO!

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17 Jan 2014 15:00 #78 by Peter Kirk
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I followed the rafcommands link mawganmad posted and it led me to the AIR 72 series at TNA. So if I delved into AIR 72/25 I would probably find the relevant order. The next question is why am I following up by looking at the original order when I know what it says? Answer - not sure but I suspect there may be more of interest in the actual order.

There is an index to the order from 1918 - 1946 in AIR 72/90 but that assumes you know what to look fro and that it is indexed the same way as my thought process. As I failed to find AIR 72 in TNA due to a too specific search string I assume I will miss a lot of interest to me.

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26 Jan 2015 13:34 #79 by carnaby
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Gosh - a whole year without an abbreviation!

Any ideas on 'SRATSC', as in 'SRATSC message centre, Uxbridge'. It's the second 'S' that's got me puzzled. Won't confuse by adding my suggestions yet.

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26 Jan 2015 22:10 #80 by Paul Francis
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see my part one UXB East which you proof read!

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