Airfield 1/72 scale modelling

THe earliest RAF scheme currently identified is in an AMO of 1937; ALL vehicles will be in RAF blue grey to BS 381c tint 33 with one exception : armoured cars and their associated vehicles operating in Iraq will be Khaki; however Khaki is not further identified, There was no Khaki in BS 381c so it would have bneen a colour ordered by the A.M. to a colour mix/chip .
Schemes were being looked at by RAE Farnborough for operations in India including the N.W. Frontier region where we seem to have been fighting wars since Adam & Eve concieved the RAF. These schemes included Dark Green with dark sand and Light Sand with dark sand, pattern templates are given but the colours have no further ident. A note in a TNA dated feb 1041 file confirms the RAF were following the army scheme for the Mid East and details suppliers of Dark Sand and Middle stone. But again not identifiers of the colours. However Middle stone did become a BS 381c colour and also part of the AM/MAP standard so its exact makeup is known.

Regards TED
TED

norwichpaul;57352 wrote:

If I may may intervene, surely it does not matter what schemes were in place for full scale vehicles, what matters here is the colours for 1/72 scale models! Which are different to the full scale version - is this correct, due to scale effect?

Dear oh dear of course it matters !!! there is a scale effect that some individuals apply to their models it is normally a process of giving the colour a lighter tone or changing the sheen or reflectivity-- the degree is dependant on the scale being worked - but the reason the original matters is you need to know the original then adjust to suit the scale. Most of the colours being discussed are available via specialist model companies and/or mix ratios are available. In conclusion without knowing the originasl colour of your subject you will never get the model right .
TED

I have to agree with you Ted, 100%
Can you imagine the avid modeller striving for detail only to realise that his master-piece has the wrong colours, marking etc
Why, you might as well paint it all one color and say its thee aeroplane, (or vehicle) that F/O kite flew and it is as it should be ...

I dont think so.
US modellers, want to try and acheive the most accurate representation of the subject we can and that means down to the most obvious detail which include the colour scheme

Able wrote:

I have to agree with you Ted, 100%
Can you imagine the avid modeller striving for detail only to realise that his master-piece has the wrong colours, marking etc
Why, you might as well paint it all one color and say its thee aeroplane, (or vehicle) that F/O kite flew and it is as it should be ...

I dont think so.
US modellers, want to try and acheive the most accurate representation of the subject we can and that means down to the most obvious detail which include the colour scheme

Ian, I used to put up with similar "daft" comments in the big flying club: ( Not that I am saying any resident of Ware would ever make a daft comment). The paint we use on ac costs an absolute fortune, it isn't kept by the shedfull at depots now its manufactured to a 28 day order cycle. once the 3 parts are mixed an unstoppable chemical action is taking place; application drying curing hardening etc etc. temperature, humidty , air circulation, are critical with all stages having a fixed timescale. The problem was, many of these highly educated engineering and aircrew officers would be demanding ac out of the paint shop in half the correct time. We had a saying every officer who had seen a tin of emulsion paint was suddenly a paint expert !!
You possibly guessed the lack of agreement with Mark is over the use of SCC14 ( near black) and SCC15 (olive drab) together, not the actual colours which are now. all identified beyond any doubt.
AMOs are perfectly clear that such a scheme was authorised between april and sept 44 whereas some army directives were not so clear and are open to question and misinterpretation.
TED

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Very nice, the mesh looks good, does it come with the kit?
I see you have a Mk 10 (BW?) on the go, how are you finding it. I've had a look in the box, took a deep breath, and closed the lid again.

These are some photos of 28AJ49, one of the Mark 9's at RAF St Mawgan during the 1980's and 1990's. The kit is 1/76 scale and comes from Capricorn Miniatures. I built it about 14 or 15 years ago, it was my first attempt at a Resin kit but it was far easier than the alternative metal kit from BW. On some of my more recent Mk9's I have added details such as hand rails and MV lenses. The markings on the side are incorrect as I couldn't find 'Fire Service' wording at the time. Besides a bit of paint tidying around the lockers It just needs a BW TACR2A to sit next to it.

Just typed a lengthy reply went to attach some piccies and microsoft had a security issue with the site and closed it down ????????????

Anyway the Fordson Sussex was from Matador Models the wheelbase had to be shortened far too long; The balloon winch was an old Trux item but from the rear of the opertors position I rebuilt it with milliput. The Mesh SHHHHH was a tiny corner of a net curtain sitting on a frame of florist wire. The trailer is the new BW kit I added the rear panel with number plate, and fabricated the cylinder clamps and turnbuckles. I knew from The relevant BS that hydrogen cylinders had always been signal red since 1930 to very recently, but I found a reproduction of a WAAF's set of training notes from 1943 in which the cylinder colour dims capacity and weight is given and the cylinders were in RAF war service Silver grey, Just before the end of the war they were in SCC2 brownish camo colour; so I did the cylinders silver grey.
I am currently building both the MK 10 & 10B . When you build the 4 body sections the front and rear walls protrude slightly I filed them flat. I also removed about 2mm from the front edge of both the chassis and cab floor . The wheels now line up nicely with the mudguards. Also make sure the body sections line up with each other horizontally . I put plastic card inside the front and rear walls of the 3 rear body sectrions then filed them away to get all the sections to sit right.
My son crewed all RAF versions of the MK10 he tells me if you use all the bits in the kit you actually end up with a MK10d ;
It has a large chequer plate panel nearly a triangular shape over the 3 suction hoses and a 2 piece raised cover over the access panel just behind the cab roof hatch. The MK10b didn't have these 2 items. I am doing the MK10B as 04AY50 which he crewed at scampton and 48AJ62 which I photographed on its first day at Chivenor.
Some of BW kits need a bit of fettling but I am a big fan the range is huge and touch wood I always get a result I am pleased with. I built the capricorn MK 9 and the MK6 very easy to go together he also did a Douglas sentinal tug. Don't know what happened to him ?? Will post pictures seperately . I have an RB 44, MK 8 and MK10B all primed ready for airbrushing red but the temp here is way below 10 until wednesday.
TED ps your MK9 marking are what I call modeller's license !!!!

Here is 48AJ62 on its first day on the run the driver is Sgt Kev Mason, the second view is a MK10B to give you a decent shot of the roof.
TED

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