Avro Vulcan

06 May 2015 11:37 #321 by Peter Kirk
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21 is the number I recall. I wonder if that is purely an internal load? Also was it dependant on which mark it was?

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06 May 2015 11:58 #322 by netcompsys
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I have always read that the maximum bomb load for a Vulcan was 21 x 1000lb bombs. Yesterday I caught part of a documentary on the Vulcan on M4M and it showed the bombing up using hydraulic rams to raise the bombs on carriers. During this it was stated that it could carry 30 x 1000lb bombs on three ten bomb carriers. Could someone tell me which is correct, 21 or 30?


I am no expert, but I recall it was always 21 in a Vulcan, more in a Victor (31?). Just because some "documentary" says something, doesn't make it true. Researchers get it wrong, and there is no way I would regard Movies for Men channel as a reliable source!

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06 May 2015 12:20 #323 by Gone
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It wasn't a case of just saying it, they showed carriers with seven and ten bombs on them and the bay took three carriers. Perhaps the extra weight of thirty restricted the range? The documentary was not the usual lashup as it featured people involved at the time and was probably made back then. Interesting to see Roly Falk taking it and a 707 up wearing a suit and tie rather than the usual overalls

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06 May 2015 15:42 #324 by PETERTHEEATER
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The Victor, in conventional role, used a seven store bomb carrier. Four bombs directly on the main carrier and three on pylons below the top four so, two layers. Five carriers were the maximum that could be installed taking 1000 pound bombs. 5 x 7 = 35.

I never worked Vulcan but since it was primarily a nuclear bomber the bomb bay was smaller than that of the Victor. It also used a seven store bomb carrier but a different type and three was the maximum with 1000 pound bombs so 3 x 7 = 21.

I never heard of a ten store carrier.

Valiant used a five store carrier, loaded three directly on the main carrier and two on pylons below but due to overlapping in the bomb bay the load was two carriers with 3 bomb each installed first and three carriers with 5 bombs each a toral if 21.

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06 May 2015 21:15 #325 by superplum
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.....I never worked Vulcan but since it was primarily a nuclear bomber the bomb bay was smaller than that of the Victor. It also used a seven store bomb carrier but a different type and three was the maximum with 1000 pound bombs so 3 x 7 = 21.

I never heard of a ten store carrier.


Me neither, I always remembered the 3x7 for the Vulcan from Halton days.

However (!), by sheer chance last year I saw something, somewhere relating to a Vulcan 10-store carrier. Do a quick Google for Vulcan bomb loads, or see here:
. One can only surmise on why it was not adopted. Normal max load was 3x7.

I wonder if there was ever a gun-pack?

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06 May 2015 22:06 #326 by carnaby
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Normal max load was 3x7.

I wonder how big the bomb-bay optional fuel tank was - perhaps it was a possibility with 3x7. One 'source' I found suggested 3x10 max, but the doors wouldn't close !

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06 May 2015 22:30 #327 by netcompsys
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I wonder if there was ever a gun-pack?


Probably not ;) but how about a push bike...

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06 May 2015 23:00 #328 by Gone
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However (!), by sheer chance last year I saw something, somewhere relating to a Vulcan 10-store carrier. Do a quick Google for Vulcan bomb loads, or see here:
. One can only surmise on why it was not adopted. Normal max load was 3x7.

I wonder if there was ever a gun-pack?


Thanks! That clip is from the M4M documentary on the Vulcan I saw though I do wonder now how the bombs were supported and released in the 10 store configuration.

Re guns, wasn't there supposed to be structural provision for a tail gun/s in the design of the V Bombers?

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07 May 2015 08:15 #329 by PETERTHEEATER
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Probably not but how about a push bike...

The bike is attached to a 'pannier' used to haul a fly-away kit for long distance detachments. All 'V's had this although the 'panniers' were sized differently.

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07 May 2015 08:17 #330 by PETERTHEEATER
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I wonder how big the bomb-bay optional fuel tank was - perhaps it was a possibility with 3x7. One 'source' I found suggested 3x10 max, but the doors wouldn't close !


I think the bomb bay tank could only be installed in the nuclear role with YS or RB; no room with BD or conventional. Same with Victor,

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